181 – Shakes the Clown

“But…” cries the patient, “I am the writer and the director!”

Jen and Tim quibble over Bobcat Goldthwait’s directorial debut, the seedy comic tale of Shakes the Clown. Also, Jen drops some hard truths about Robin Williams.

Patton Oswalt tells his story about the world’s worst party clown to Conan O’Brien.

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Apropos of nothing, apparently the children’s show Little Clowns of Happytown was developed by Chuck Lorre, the guy who went on to runaway success with a bunch of sitcoms that Jen hates with every fiber of her being.

Can’t get enough clownin’? Listen to our episode about the Terrifier franchise! 

180 – Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects

He’s not even in the FBI!

Tim and Jen look at the creepiest Charles Bronson film not directed by Michael Winner, Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects.

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Regarding Jill Ireland leaving then-husband David McCallum for Bronson, longtime rumor says that Bronson reportedly told McCallum to his face, “I’m going to marry your wife.” However, McCallum disputes this, and apparently didn’t hold a grudge:

“‘I never hated him, Charlie was always a good friend,’ he says. ‘I find that when problems come along, worrying about them and getting anxious and negative is quite unnecessary. You can solve them, usually amicably. That’s what happened.’” 

McCallum to the Daily Mirror, 2016

Whatta guy!

Lateral move, really

CBR has the rundown on Cannon’s ersatz entry in the Macross/Robotech saga, the optimistically titled Robotech: The Movie. This archived Robotech fansite goes into even further detail on what went wrong. Please direct any further questions to our Robotech expert, Tim.

For more Cannon/Bronson (and J. Lee Thompson!), listen to our episode about 10 to Midnight, the movie with a nude serial killer. 

179 – The Terrifier Franchise

Moments before one of Terrifier’s famous kill quips: “…”

Jen and Tim get mad enough to talk about All Hallow’s Eve and Terrifier (the first one) for almost two hours!

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Jen really punted when she said that scary clowns go back to John Wayne Gacy— according to Smithsonian Magazine, clowns have been creepy (and annoying) for centuries!

This Bloom County strip from the story arc Jen mentioned illustrates the one-time societal loathing directed at mimes pretty well.

Tim was also inaccurate: Men, Women, and Chainsaws is 30 years old. Here’s a recap. This and the recommended Offensive Films is on the Internet Archive (however long that is still around).

For that previous mime discussion, listen to our Eat and Run episode with special guest Bitter Karella!

178 – Brainstorm

“Do I really sound like that?”

Tim and Jen review a film of great technical genius and great vacuity of story: Natalie Wood’s final film, Brainstorm. But Jen liked at least half of it. Also, please send Tim all of your uneaten candy corn.

There’s a rundown on the Showscan process originally intended for Brainstorm from Douglas Trumbull himself on YouTube. Too bad it’s in 360p. This fine Japanese documentary on Trumbull is in much higher quality, though.

If you’re super into the dialectic and want to go beyond Noguchi’s and Lambert’s account of the death of Natalie Wood, former prosecutor Sam Perroni has written a well-researched look into the case called…Brainstorm!

And if you want more mind-bending visuals that weren’t appreciated by the public at the time, listen to our episode on the Wachowskis’ update of Speed Racer!

177 – Johnny Mnemonic

Information wants to be free, but entertainment is $5/month.

Jen and Tim struggle to understand the newly-minted cult status of a flop from Keanu Reeves’ himbo era, the cyberpunk thriller Johnny Mnemonic. They also put on hazmat suits and delve into the horror that is the comment section on Dina Meyer’s website. 

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Director Robert Longo talks about the rationale and process that led to his black-and-white edition of Johnny Mnemonic over at Screen Slate. 

Screenwriter and god of cyberpunk William Gibson reflects on the film shortly after its U.S. release.

For more Dina Meyer discussion, listen to our The Evil Within episode!

176 – Witch Hunt

Witch Hunt
Follow @Inflate123 on Twitter for more of… whatever this scene is

Tim and Jen dutifully cover the sequel to Cast a Deadly Spell, the Paul Schrader(!)-directed Witch Hunt.

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Jen erred and called Schrader’s 2022 film Master Gardener “Master.” Was she thinking of the Paul Thomas Anderson film The Master? Who knows!

Be sure to watch Tim’s webseries Assignment Unexplained! And visit his website! And follow timtoonstudio on Instagram!

Discussing Julian Sands’ death, Tim alluded to the disappearance of experienced hiker Bill Ewasko, which you can learn more about in episode 47 of Adam Walks Around.

View the miracle of electrical kitchen appliances as filtered through the horny fixation of a teenage girl in a short riffed for Mystery Science Theater 3000, Young Man’s Fancy. Damn, that girl is SO squishy. Was it even legal to be that squishy in the 1950s?!

Speaking of sexuality and decades long past, here is the paper Jen was talking about that debunks the myth of “hysteria treatments” for women in decades past. Author Hailie Lieberman warns that the spurious paper is “a cautionary tale for how easily falsehoods can become embedded in the humanities.”

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175 – Cast a Deadly Spell

A disheveled Julianne Moore and Fred Ward from the climax of CAST A DEADLY SPELL (1991)
“I miss the graboids”

Jen and Tim try to say something nice about a pay cable attempt at Lovecraftian horror/comedy, Cast a Deadly Spell. Also, Jen tries and fails to remember the time she massively insulted Dead Men Don’t Wear Plaid out of nowhere.

Jen is so dumb she forgot to mention who directed Witch Hunt, the sequel to Cast a Deadly Spell: Paul fucking Schrader. Will we watch it? Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Tim confused Peter Scolari of Bosom Buddies with Mark Linn-Baker in Perfect Strangers, or maybe he was thinking of Bronson Pinchot. Does it matter?

Jerry Smith over at Certified Forgotten makes a fan’s case for the movie, so we’ll include it as a concession to an imaginary genre podcast Fairness Doctrine.

Finally, for more throwback horror, try our episode on the first Kolchak telefilm, The Night Stalker! 

174 – Penda’s Fen

Doesn’t look like a panda to me

Tim is too cool to talk about a nerdy British kid’s coming of age story, so Jen and special guest @bitterkarella step in to talk about cult BBC teleplay Penda’s Fen.

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BFI did indeed release Penda’s Fen on blu-ray in 2016, but it’s also available on YouTube! 

The 2010 post that originally turned Jen on to the film may be found at John Coulthart’s excellent art blog, Feuilleton. At the time of writing, Penda’s Fen was almost impossible to see, as a home video release was far in the future.

As for Penda’s Fen, whenever a TV executive tries to argue that television hasn’t dumbed down I’d offer this work as Exhibit A for the prosecution. Rudkin and Clarke’s film was screened at 9.35 in the evening on the nation’s main TV channel, BBC 1, at a time when there were only three channels to choose from. A primetime audience of many millions watched this visceral and unapologetically intelligent drama; show me where this happens today. – John Coulthart

Jen mangled the words to the Bonzo Dog Band’s “Sport” a little bit (“Sport, sport, masculine sport / equips a young man for society”), but you get the idea.

Also, be sure to listen to our discussion of the Alan Clarke-directed The Firm, along with its inferior remake.

173 – Lake of Fire

Have I seen what now?

Jen and Tim welcome reproductive rights expert Mellie to discuss an exhaustive documentary on A BIG COMPLICATED ISSUE: Tony Kaye’s overview of abortion in the US, Lake of Fire.

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Looper has the rundown on Tony Kaye’s battle with New Line Cinema (and Edward Norton) over the final cut of American History X.

The Nation has a pretty good overview of the intertwining of anti-abortion activism and white supremacy in the United States.

Randall Terry is still alive, unfortunately, but Paul Jennings Hill, John Burt, John Salvi, and Norman Weslin are not.

Be sure to listen to Mellie’s first appearance on the show, where we picked apart the anti-abortion propaganda film The Silent Scream.

Want more discussion on reproductive ethics? Try our FREE episode on 1997’s Gattaca.

172 – Gattaca

Gattaca
Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawk or maybe Jude Law

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Tim and Jen have a mild and cordial disagreement about Truman Show screenwriter Andrew Niccol’s flop first feature: Gattaca.

The Cinemaholic has an explainer for the ending, just in case you’re stupid.

The studio attempted to sell the film as a sci-fi thriller, going by the trailer. See it in 4K over at YouTube. Am I crazy, or is that Richard Kiley narrating for a touch of educational-television believability? Guess they spared no expense!

In an interview snippet, Gattaca cinematographer Slawomir Idziak talks about working on an episode of Krzysztof Kieślowski’s televised masterpiece, Dekalog.

Finally, if you want to hear our episode on George Romero’s Martin, it’s also free! (But first come to our Discord and talk to Tim about Traveller.)