184 – Clifford

Pure evil or sublime comedy? The two are closer than you might think.

Jen and Tim come to a tenuous agreement about a once universally loathed Martin Short comedy, Clifford. Also, Tim punches down ruthlessly on a twenty pound miniature pinscher [who could lose a little weight].

Reggie, an asshole minpin
This dog is an asshole.

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The Slate article about Martin Short that riled everyone up may be found here, but if you want to skip right to the synchronized swimming sketch from SNL, you can watch it on Vimeo. 

The Vulture oral history of the making, the release, and the eventual cult fandom around Clifford is as exhaustive a history of the film as one may be expected to tolerate.

DNA specialists identified the Boy in the Box as Joseph Augustus Zarelli, 65 years after his death (be careful if you search for info on the case; the police distributed postmortem photos shortly after he was found in an attempt to generate leads).

Tim is beside himself that Clifford is not this movie.

While Clifford is the exception, why not check out one of our several other episodes about traumatizing children? Or look at this awful little kid from Woodchipper Massacre?

183 – Perversions of Science

Perversions of Science
She perverted me… with science!

Tim and Jen head back to the pre-prestige-TV cable well with a failed spinoff of Tales From the Crypt called Perversions of Science. Throughout, you can really tell that your hosts would rather be watching a certain Canadian/German co-production.

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Jen was slightly off when she said that HBO has existed since “the mid-to-late 70s”—it launched in 1972.

Mic mentions the Dan Quayle/Murphy Brown kerfuffle in this article about depictions of abortion on American television. And then there’s Maude!

In 1992, Vanity Fair covered the speculation around the circumstances of the death of Hitler’s niece. (Jen thinks he did it.)

If you love Skinemax Farscape as much as we do, listen to our Lexx episode! 

181 – Shakes the Clown

“But…” cries the patient, “I am the writer and the director!”

Jen and Tim quibble over Bobcat Goldthwait’s directorial debut, the seedy comic tale of Shakes the Clown. Also, Jen drops some hard truths about Robin Williams.

Patton Oswalt tells his story about the world’s worst party clown to Conan O’Brien.

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Apropos of nothing, apparently the children’s show Little Clowns of Happytown was developed by Chuck Lorre, the guy who went on to runaway success with a bunch of sitcoms that Jen hates with every fiber of her being.

Can’t get enough clownin’? Listen to our episode about the Terrifier franchise! 

144 – Fatal Beauty

Key Art for Fatal Beauty (1987)

Tim and Jen host Jacques of the Seeking Derangements podcast so they can hold forth about a personal favorite: Fatal Beauty starring Whoopi Goldberg!

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Jacques somewhat confused the timeframe of Whoopi’s brief relationship with Ted Danson. They had an affair on the set of the 1993 film Made in America, and the infamous Friars Club blackface bit occurred in the fall of that same year. Ted and Whoopi dated until 1994; they moved on with Mary Steenbergen and Frank Langella(!), respectively.

Several stories exist on the origin of Whoopi’s stage surname, incidentally. The anecdote about “Goldberg” being her mother’s suggestion so she could appear Jewish enough to succeed in show business has not been confirmed. Hilariously, noted treat boy John Podhoretz once wrote an editorial for the New York Post demanding that she drop her adopted surname, in light of some wild-ass comments about the Holocaust Whoopi made on The View.

If you don’t recall the story of Big Lurch, we told it on our Disco Godfather episode.

143 – Wet Hot American Summer

Key art for Wet Hot American Summer (2001)

Jen and Tim fight to a standstill over a comedy that flopped in theaters, Wet Hot American Summer.

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Tim incorrectly identifies co-writer Michael Showalter as director. It was David Wain, not that Tim gives a fuck.

The five episodes of sketch comedy show The State produced by MTV have been preserved on the Internet Archive! 

The children’s TV special Jen struggled to name is The Night Dracula Saved the World, aka The Halloween That Almost Wasn’t. We highly recommend the Rifftrax version! 

For more Angry Tim, try our episode on True Stories!

129 – Hot to Trot

Hot to Trot, 1988

Tim and Jen make hay out of the 1988 comedy Hot to Trot, which killed Bobcat Goldthwait’s career for two decades. The horse was unscathed.

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Tim confused God Bless America with Red State (and Jen did not catch the error, shame on her) — the other movie from 2011 with a divisive title and middling reviews about a gun-toting ingenue.

On his blog, script doctor Andy Breckman reminisces unkindly about working on the screenplay.

Listen to the Q&A we discussed in the episode, in which Goldthwait puts the screws to the interviewer for opening with a question about Hot to Trot.

087 – Serial

Screenwriter Josh Olson brings us a movie that he swears is actually funny and good! It’s the little-seen Serial from 1980! Featuring Martin Mull, Tuesday Weld, violent gay bikers, Sally Kellerman’s boobs, casual homophobia, Tommy Smothers in a headband, hot tubs, est probably, psychologically disturbed children whose acting out is played for laughs, etc.

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For the curious, here is the full Kevin Thomas review of Serial from 1980 that we mentioned on the episode:

Kevin Thomas shreds Serial

You can also hear more of Josh with Dave Anthony on The West Wing Thing, or with Joe Dante on The Movies That Made Me, or check out our episode on Beyond the Valley of the Dolls!

077 – Hudson Hawk

Tim and Jen revisit everyone’s favorite dad-joke heist movie: the unfairly reviled (to some) Hudson Hawk!

Bruce Willis mugging in Hudson Hawk (1991)
Doing an comedy

The entertainment media subjected Hudson Hawk to an unusual amount of negative attention during production. This poor publicity appears to have had a detrimental affect on the box office returns. However, enough time has passed that a nonzero number of people (who aren’t Tim!) will defend it. One of those pieces appeared at the Guardian:

The action scenes are fun, particularly one sequence where Willis is riding a hospital bed down the Brooklyn Bridge (“How am I driving? 1-800-I’m-gonna-fuckin’-die!”) 

Oliver Macnaughton

For another movie that became synonymous with “flop,” try our very first episode, where we discussed Ishtar.